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“For truth is not told, it is realized.” -Zeitgeist

Critics everywhere, I think

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The information below is not my work/writing, I relay it because it is relevant to the Zeitgeist movie I posted about in a previous post. The basic idea behind this post is to educate some people about the “politics” involved in the criticism of Zeitgeist and some of the people that have been put under the microscope. Primarily, the focus in this post will be a well known Jesus myth Author D.M. Murdock a.k.a “Acharya S.

There have been numerous people who claim to have “debunked” the movie in different aspects, many of whom cite internet, biblical and encyclopedia sources. But, as with everything, we all know you cannot simply debunk anything by reading something that is written with no known “original source” or “transcripts,” as D.M. Murdock explains in her video blog.

Below are two quotes from the author’s blog providing clear and concise information for critics who cite her work as, well, basically being a satanist and directly helping with the movie Zeitgeist.

It should be noted that I am not and have never been adverse to reading Christian material or factual rebuttals to my work or that of anyone else. Over the years, I have continually factored such information into my work. In reality, I was born and raised a Christian, from a family of Christians dating back many hundreds of years. My mother’s family landed in America in 1630, as Puritans, and my mother was the longtime secretary, choir director and soloist of our Protestant Congregationalist church. I was also briefly a born-again Christian – I know the material very well. Who could miss Christian proselytizing? In America, it is available all over the place – in our books, newspapers, magazines, radio, TV, movies – we are inundated with Christianity. But if anyone dares to raise their small voice of objection or alternative perspective, they are beaten down with disparagement and vituperation. (Such vitriol, by the way, continues, as several people have attempted to post vicious and insulting comments here – be advised that such posts will not be passed through, but they do prove my point about religious fanaticism causing hatred and incivility towards other human beings.)

Here, she discusses her indirect involvement with Zeitgeist and the heavy skepticism it receives, while also just providing some counters to the original criticism, have a look.

Because of my work’s influence on Part 1 of ZEITGEIST, a number of the debunking sites have been directed largely at me and my contentions formulated over the past 15 years. While we would expect a debate as to the facts, the vitriolic and bilious nature of these refutations reflects a severe weakness of intelligent argument. Moreover, the detractors – whether theists or atheists and other freethinkers – quite often HAVE NOT ACTUALLY STUDIED MY WORK, and there has not been one “refutation” site to our knowledge that has proceeded from an informed and unbiased perspective, accurately presenting facts based on serious research. Despite pretending to be experts on the subject in general and my work in particular, none of these individuals has given any indication that he or she has read my Companion Guide to ZEITGEIST, Part 1, which already deals with a number of the facts purportedly “debunked” and which sets the tone for further discussion of the claims in ZEITGEIST. Because such individuals are not aware of the facts and evidence in my books, they apparently feel the need to attack me personally, demonstrating a lack of substance and objectivity on their part, despite their pretenses to the contrary.

Some of the people who “blast” these authors and free-thinkers are very common and come from all four corners of the earth, some even go as far as to “retaliate” with their own refuted/debunked video clips. Videos such as the one I’ve just linked

Part 1 of the movie Zeitgeist, nearly 200 sources were cited in the transcript. Many of these sources were cited more than once…

Reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXPjt_qCxQ

The narrator goes on to reveal various of these “duplicate” citations that the makers of this documentary referenced. Keep in mind, the video clip failed to actually reveal to its audience the page numbers to the far right of which specifically provide the viewers, those who are genuinely willing to refer to them, the actual reference-points for any person to verify for themselves.

Also… the narrator of that video failed once more to properly educate people whom are not familiar with the reference-key described at the very top of the manuscript page.

Interactive Transcript

[S#] = Source – [M] = *More information – [D] = Debate Issues
[S#] links will direct you to the source. Use the Browser’s “Back Button”to return.
[M] and [D] links will open up in a new window. (turn off “pop-up blocker” if enabled)

Reference: http://zeitgeistmovie.com/transcript.htm#S75

So, in using the reference-key they provided, then their list of reference begins to take shape and you begin to understand why there are multiple citations that begin to culminate… It’s because they are explaining in their manuscript references as they progress through-it.

Example: This is the sun. As far back as 10 thousand B.C.E., history is abundant with carvings [M] and writings reflecting people’s respect and adoration for this object [S1].

Reference for S1: [S1] – Singh, Madanjeet: ‘The Sun- Symbol of Power and Life, UNESCO Pub., 1993

Note: There ARE indeed many-many reference with specific citations including page numbers.

Example:

[S7] – Hazelrigg, John.: The Sun Book, Health Research, 1971. Page 43
[S8] – Acharya S.: Suns of God, Adventures Unlimited Press, 2004. Page 86-95
[S9] – Olcott, William Tyler : Suns Lore of All Ages, The Book Tree, 1914. Page 157

Unsure if people require more literature reference to realize that “hey, maybe there is literature I can read via the references provided in this manuscript!” What a novel concept.

Written by amanturion

October 3, 2008 at 12:19 pm

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